@AbbieNormal

Thanks, glad you like it!

The admitted goal of the article is to raise the bar, hence the recommendations with a somewhat steep learning curve.

@AbbieNormal

Regarding Emacs: you might be surprised, I've actually got a couple of non-programmer friends to use it. With minimal configuration (e.g. CUA bindings), it gets the job done.

Git: There is Git Kraken and it does an amazing job, some non-programmer friends have no problem using it. I didn't mention it in the article since it's non-free.

Guix: It mostly needs an easy-to-use interface for package management, then anyone can use it. I'd like to work on it in the months to come.

@ambrevar

good luck !

As for GitKraken ; i have taken a look at it these days

You should have mentioned it !

When there' s no valid free alternative, then I think we can mention proprietary software

@ambrevar @AbbieNormal My wish would be this: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00060.html

@ambrevar @AbbieNormal i’m a non-programmer who uses emacs. just for writing and org mode mainly.

guix doesn’t seem v interested in becoming usable to non-experts tho, right? from what i cd tell. but mayb you’re proving me wrong here :)

@ambrevar ah soz for necro post. cool article of yours tho thx.

@mousebot @AbbieNormal While Guix is currently not very accessible to non-experts, I intend to
work on graphical user interfaces to help alleviating this issue.
Hopefully Guix will be as straightforward to use as any other
familiar distribution!

@Shamar @ambrevar Good to know that Code of Conduct and strong stance against abuse from holy cows makes you uncomfortable.

I love Guix even more now.

@Shamar Hi! I understand the bewilderment: I believe the Joint Statement has little to do with Guix itself and does not belong to the website. I'm not on the list myself and I can only be sure that Guix will go on, regardless of the statement. I hope this reassures you and does not deter you from using this wonderful program/concept/OS :)

@ambrevar

I followed a bit the debate on the mailing list. But frankly, since it's still on the website and nobody published a "Joint Statement fix", #Guix last word is written down there.

I'm a #Debian #GNU #Linux user since "Potato", but after the #systemd outcome I was looking for an alternative.

I like some of the technical features of Guix / #Nix but honestly... I can't support a project joining the lynching of a man for what he _said_.

So in fact, all I can appreciate the concept, that "joint statement" really deter my usage of Guix.

#Software is a form of #expression.

#FreeSoftware IS #FreeSpeech.

I know there are #OpenSource people who pretend to ignore what happened and celebrate it like a #CoC success or so.

What I find very daunting is seeing this happening within #FSF and #GNU.

#Google is winning. 🤮

@Shamar @ambrevar Yes, Guix is GPLed plot to bring power to open source and Google.

Excluding a holy cow for repeated abuse of his position is a lynch!

Not giving a community‑driven platform to assholes is a freedom of speech issue.

PS GNU Shephard is inspired by systemd.

In conclusion go to some antisystemd distro where toxicity and vitriol is protected freedom of speech.

@fudgel

Did you noticed your aggressive tone?

That's the usual approach of people supporting #CoC, #workplace like management (aka exploitation) of highly specialized #volunteer work, and #hacker marginalization.

I have no time for you. 😘

@ambrevar

@ambrevar

PS: I noticed you didn't signed such statement. I really appreciate it.

But still, your work is contributing to that same project. Even if you don't like it.

@jordila It's works for me :) Maybe try again.

@ademalsasa Thanks, glad you like it! ;)