@fedilab @switchingsocial @snder

@x 🙃

@inditoot @fedilab @switchingsocial @snder

@x @fedilab @switchingsocial @snder

Read Toots 😁

@inditoot

Oh wow, that a mess..

@x @fedilab @switchingsocial

@inditoot @fedilab @switchingsocial @snder

Well at least the app still on here
https://joinmastodon.org/apps

@inditoot

I can't see the toots haha! Switchingsocial blocked me

@fedilab @switchingsocial

@snder You are quite famous them 😂

https://framapiaf.org/@fedilab/102604484076521500

Take a look here than

@fedilab @switchingsocial

@fedilab @switchingsocial

Watching that too. Should be discussed in public, because maybe there is a reason to build a political free version of a listing of FOSS social systems .......

@trwnh @fedilab @switchingsocial tag me into this hell thread, stress testing my notification system

@fireglow @switchingsocial @fedilab no need, looks like fedilab just silently blocked me instead. 🤐

@trwnh @switchingsocial @fedilab or maybe that juvenile question didn't warrant a response

@fireglow @switchingsocial @fedilab the only thing juvenile is tom's behavior. they're taking things WAY too personally.

@trwnh @switchingsocial @fedilab I think it's a legitimate question, if the app was on the list previously, and got silently removed.

@fireglow @switchingsocial @fedilab making a public stink about it for drama is juvenile. they're just drawing the attention of their followers... why? the mature thing to do would be to DM for an explanation, not incite dogpiling.

@trwnh @switchingsocial @fedilab "public stink", no. "incite", no. There is also no dogpiling.
You see what you want to see :)
I believe it is not fruitful to continue with this discussion.

@fireglow @switchingsocial @fedilab the express purpose of posting something publicly is for others to see it, no?

@trwnh @fireglow @switchingsocial @fedilab stealthily removing Fedilab from a public list warrants some explanation, right? Hopefully transparency and trust will prevail.

@m_p_3 @fireglow @switchingsocial @fedilab it does not warrant an explanation. no one is owed an explanation.

@trwnh
No one is ever owed an explanation, but not providing one makes one suspicious of the motives, even if there might be nothing behind the decision.

@m_p_3 Demanding a public explanation, especially in front of one's followers, makes me more suspicious of one's motives.

@trwnh
I didn't pay attention to your account as I didn't recognize the pp. I just thought it was a troll starting a discussion. Sorry.

@Mikoto @switchingsocial@mastodon.at
No, otherwise I would not have accepted to discuss it privately :)

@fedilab @switchingsocial That sucks but I understand your reasoning. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck and I hope that this gets resolved soon!

@fedilab
I understand this decision to don't share your DM's.
Still, I don't like this lack of transparency for something which is promoting Open source like switching social. That's a little bit disturbing.
@Mikoto @switchingsocial@mastodon.at

@booteille @fedilab @Mikoto @switchingsocial

In no way disturbing to have private conversations instead of breaking out in social media drama.

That is what is called being professional @booteille

@christoffer @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial If being professional means being against transparency then I don't want to be professional.

@Mikoto @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial

Do you believe that induviduals, organizations, representatives and governments should be transparent with all information even though it can compromise an induvidual? @Mikoto 🤔

@christoffer
It's question of balance. Everything is not black or white. You have a lot of different grays.
Switching social used to promote a software and they stopped to do this without any statement. Wanted to know why suddenly a software is not considered as recommended is important in this situation, imo. Because I want to know how I can trust the judgment of switching social.
@Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial@mastodon.at

@booteille @Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial

@booteille switching.social can do that in a official statement, not through a private discussion where they figure things out 😜

Unless you litterally can't wait until then

@christoffer
I never said I wouldn't prefer an official statement or couldn't wait until then. They never said they would do a statement through.
But I was just sharing my feeling. I don't think it was worth that many toots. I think you understood my point (you can not agree with) and I understood yours. No need for more toots.
@Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial@mastodon.at

@booteille @Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial

@booteille what you say have very direct implications, but if you want to walk that back or that was unintentional then I won't take issue with that.

Reason I reply is that unanswered statements that are not met against, fuels that way of thinking with a higher percent.

And I'd expect a official statement, switching.social has done that before. I'd agree if they could be more clear about that so people know what to expect out of this.

@christoffer
So we agree they should explain theirselves. Perfect. Have a great day/night/whatever then!
@Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial@mastodon.at

@booteille @Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial

This is not a "cought ya" You just said that things are not just black and white. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But more importantly you wanted to see their DMs, while I gave you a better solution which was an official statement.

But if you agree with me now, then I don't think I can complain. heheh 😅

Best of wishes and blessings to you too though^^

@booteille @Mikoto @fedilab @switchingsocial

Clear about that there will be a official statement. That would defuse things a lot I believe.

@christoffer @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial For the love of god. Please do not delete+repost posts for minor changes. This is annoying af. Now my post is in the middle of nowhere. https://fedi.absturztau.be/notice/9lp1VlgOCAzhvWKg3U

@christoffer @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial In addition, there is no reason why things like debates should ever not be done in public.

@Mikoto @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial

@Mikoto

yeah, litterally no reasons in the entire world

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@christoffer @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial Glad we agree then?

@Mikoto @christoffer @booteille @fedilab @switchingsocial
The ride never ends. God forbid anyone ever get exposed to different perspectives.

@sheetposter @switchingsocial @booteille @fedilab @Mikoto

well said sheetposter person

@sheetposter @fedilab @christoffer @booteille @switchingsocial @Mikoto

As I have said before, if it’s an open source software project, and you don’t like what’s going on, feel free to go fork yourself

@ChrisWilson removing others from the chat out of respect because you are raising a thread from three grave.
Man ofc I can fork. Doesn't make the decision to hardcode a block less retarded.

@sheetposter any hard core blocking is pointless save to stop “abuse” (spam, ddos, shit like that)

Personally I get a little despondent when people, who claim to be all “inclusive” and “transparent” just block, and when you ask why / what ?? You get the same.

The fediverse is a Petrie dish of human interaction. Given the poison social media is to humanity, it’s like watching Ted Kaczinsky’s predictions in real time.

BTW, are you an across the Tasman cousin ??

@ChrisWilson
>Personally I get a little despondent when people, who claim to be all “inclusive” and “transparent” just block, and when you ask why / what ?? You get the same.

It's a political stance many years in the making. I remember being a lefty supporting for more freedom of speech and tolerance back when religious freaks were worried about D&D and metal.

I've also watched opportunistic scum that wormed their way to influencing positions once a left-wing politics took over and started reframing "tolerance" to mean "good application of censorship". And by now a bunch of people buy it without understanding what a failed approach it is.

It either fails to take hold because it is rejected, or it takes hold and it fails to create a better society because once you get started with the censorship the only direction is adding more censorship.

> BTW, are you an across the Tasman cousin ??

I have no idea what you mean. I guess that's a no.

@sheetposter

It meant Are you a kiwi ? New Zealander ? I’m in Australia. NZ is across the Tasman sea.

Anyway, NAS is an instance for the Community that’s around the No Agenda Podcast. While @Johncdvorak is on twitter for the most, @adam Curry is active here. It’s a pretty open instance and no one here is precious. A good bunch of people.

Our podcast pulls apart what the media is reporting and what’s going on in the social narrative. Analysis of the propaganda machine:-)

@ChrisWilson @Johncdvorak @adam oh, KiwiFarms is hardly related with the area. I'm not even on the site myself.

I actually came into this by following @Dickmasterson - from there I was familiarized with Nick Rekieta, a man who literally reads anime court documents on stream while insisting that he's not an alcoholic - and in a stream between Nick and null from KiwiFarms I learned about the fediverse.

I think that's how it went. Where can I listen to your podcast?

@sheetposter
Http://noagendashow.com is the launch point. Links to show notes, there plus community run indexed players, searchable transcripts, IRC channel, groups on most social media platforms....and such.

New show streams live tonight 2:00am my time, or Noon east coast US time on https://listen.noagendastream.com/noagenda.pls

Podcast is usually downloadable within the hour.

Warning. It’s 3 hours long :-)
Been going 11 years
100% listener supported

@Dickmasterson @adam @Johncdvorak

@ChrisWilson @adam @Johncdvorak I'm halfway through EP 1163. It's pretty good you got yourself a new listener.

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