"KITTY.TOWN is a small Mastodon instance and community for kind people."

That's a great mission; I always try to be my kindest self. That's why I looked at this instance while searching a new Fediverse home a few months ago.

What I saw was not kindness. The current pinned toots of the admin, @GinnyMcQueen, literally contain "Let them eat CoCs" and "I love cats and hate fascists".

I do not tolerate fascism either, but defining yourself in terms of this? That doesn't make you look kind.

@midgard So your kindest self thought that tagging someone to reprimand (*cough* tone police *cough*) them was the best course of action? What look were you trying for?

@sashakovich The mention being not 100% kind is a fair point. I was trying to cause self-reflection.

I totally get that the tone of a written text is very hard to get right. The phrase "I hate fascists" is not just unkind in tone, but in content.

@midgard How would you prefer people describe how they feel about genocidal murderers? What attitudes would you prefer people present towards fascists?

I talked to @sashakovich in follower-only messages a bit and I want to clarify in the public thread:

I am lucky to live in an area where there aren't a lot of fascists. As I said, I would certainly not tolerate fascism. Going further, I would not tolerate any unkindness or lack of compassion.

@sashakovich There's a very big difference between hating and strongly opposing. Hatred is a strong emotion. It brings out the worst in you, it makes you lose yourself.

@sashakovich Many revolutions have been powered by strong emotions.

A problem I see is that hatred in particular makes you easy to manipulate. All world leaders know this. In Orwell's novel "nineteen eighty-four" there's a daily "two minutes of hate". In non-fiction, war propaganda is designed to induce hatred towards the enemy.


@sashakovich Also I was initially more trying to highlight the difference between describing an instance as "for kind people" and the first thing you see being "I hate fascists" (the key word here being "hate"). That's strange branding.

@sashakovich On the topic that hatred against the Nazis in WW2 is justified:

It's unbelievable how so many people could subscribe to such an ideology. I dare say they were blinded by hatred. With his eloquence, Hitler could funnel people's daily frustrations into hatred.

@midgard that's not strange branding at all.

You can't be kind to people who want to kill you, your friends, or whoever else they dislike. You're kind to people who can actually reciprocate your kindness.

Hatred is a perfectly fine reaction towards fascists. Eliminating fascism is a prerequisite to actually having a kind world. :antifa:

You're neck-deep in the paradox of tolerance.

“Can't be kind to people who want to kill you […]”

Fascism needs to disappear? Agreed. Killing it with fire will not make problems disappear. I know this is all very theoretical though.

I still think that one's first message being "I hate X", even if X hates you back, does not set the tone for a world of kindness.

“kind to people who can actually reciprocate”
If you're just kind to people who are kind to you you're not doing anything special really. Hatred solves nothing.

@mthl I just mean that you should be careful not to end up with more hate than there was in the first place. Not that you should be kind in situations where you are threatened.

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