Today, we've unveiled our roadmap to #PeerTube's v3: live streaming, global search, better plugins, playlists and moderation: we will need your help!
▶️ info https://framablog.org/2020/05/26/our-plans-for-peertube-v3-progressive-fundraising-live-streaming-coming-next-fall
▶️ share and support https://joinpeertube.org/roadmap
@peertube this is still really cool though, but it sucks that the platform still requires running a bloated browser for finding videos. (but at least youtube-dl supports it somewhat)
@grainloom @peertube so you would like to have... native client?
I appreciate the goal but I don't think the they have capacity for this.. unless some volunteer emerges ofc
@grainloom @peertube yes but the player itself is p2p, how do you do this without JS. With normal videos you can ofc drop <video /> into HTML and call it a day
@charlag @peertube You don't actually need the player.
You can already play them in anything that uses youtube-dl (eg.: Celluloid) and you can use a regular torrent client to download the whole video (and hopefully seed it, although i haven't successfully done that so far).
But you can't get at the video's link or the torrent file without JS.
@grainloom @peertube okay, I get it. It shouldn't be hard to write even third-party thing for that (like Brutaldon) or even a native program.
@grainloom @peertube there are plenty of Mastodon clients and lag is usually not that bad. Peertube search is even simpler.
@peertube Moderation tools are the $20,000 goal and not the $10,000 goal? Are you serious 😐?
I don’t want to be disrepectful, but you are on your way to become the #1 platform for conspiracy theory and hate speech. So maybe moderation should be a higher priority on your list.
@TheFerridge @Sylvhem Is it, though ? https://framapiaf.org/@peertube/104240884385542048
@Sylvhem @peertube lol'ing really hard that a social media platform's putting moderation tools like this behind a paywall at all tbh
If that's something you're not providing to admins as a baseline then im not sure what else to say other than it'll be a cold day in Hell before I step foot on your platform
You do realize that they are no real goals here, that we will develop all those tools no matter how much we receive? our plans are detailed here https://framablog.org/2020/05/26/our-plans-for-peertube-v3-progressive-fundraising-live-streaming-coming-next-fall/
If "Moderation tools" are in the "second" place, it's because we will work on them in July. This is to give time to the community to create/discuss issues (throughout June) and help us prioritize the tools needed.
@peertube @Sylvhem Not making those moderation tools a clear, explicit, #1 priority (and you can tell me it is all you want, but you're not SHOWING us it is on your own roadmap) when you've received ceaseless feedback on the lack thereof looks REALLY bad.
It seems like a "here, we're doing it eventually, now shut up about it," instead of an earnest effort to address what should be an obvious problem.
@Viktor
@Sylvhem
Hey people, regardless of the point (whether moderation tools should be higher priority), the way I read the toots in this thread, some of them feel quite aggressive towards @peertube.
The people behind the Peertube FOSS project are well meaning. So maybe we could try to express our constructive criticism in a kinder way?
(And sorry if the lack of non-verbal communication made me construe the toots as aggressive, where they weren't intended as such)
@peertube @Viktor @Sylvhem I think a point of confusion is that in the road map, each of the steps has a euro amount with half the image holding that information, and the other half having the month being a relatively subtle "(July)" so it intuitively looks like the image is saying "20,000 euros = moderation tools" instead of conveying that it has more to do with the month than the expected(?) donation amount by that time
@peertube I really like the global search ideas!
@peertube Global search! <3
@peertube
I like the basic concept of peertube, but here's where I see peertube failing as it is now:
I have never came across a single peertube instance that I enjoyed. I enjoyed watching single videos, but the overall user experience looking through videos from an instance level is very bad.
@peertube
Reasons:
- peertube presents me many videos in languages that I do not understand.
- the content is indexed and sorted by a machine, that does a pretty bad job in sorting interesting content.
- I saw often content from fascists and conspiracy theorist
proposal: let humans do the curation of content.
@sean @peertube
thank you for your answer!
1. oh, my fault. I need to try it again
2. My main point is: I'd like to have a video plattform that is supporting and spreading community curated content that is just nice what ever that is for them. No bigotry, no conspiracy theories...
I don't feel welcome in platforms that are by their design spreading it more then it would need to be. And I can't advice such platforms to others, if this is the case.
1/2
@sean @peertube
3.
https://join.peertube.social/ looks so much better then what I find from #peertubes official instance picker. **Every time** I try it, I find either something that is related to fascism or conspiracy theories.
Every single time I check in. Sometimes it's very obvious that it is such content, sometimes not.
This time I randomly picked an instance choose "news/politics" and "people".
3/4
@syster
I will agree here, its not easy to find things to watch. And i want to make videos for it, but finding a sutivel instence hasen't been that easy unfortunetly.
@peertube Live streaming is gonna be mad! Can't wait for it to happen!
@peertube знаминательное событие. Уже давно ждал такого сервиса со стримами.
@peertube I think moderation is important, which is why I'm hoping to get your funding up over to 20,000 Euro mark.
@peertube @Chocobozzz Live streaming?! I've always wanted this! Can't wait!
@peertube oh boi i hope a JS-less client is on that list...