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Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://lemmy.ca/u/kionite231" class="u-url mention">@<span>kionite231</span></a></span></p><p>The only one, that is maintained and developed is probably <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Emacs</span></a>-<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Jabber</span></a>:</p><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/emacs-jabber/emacs-jabber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">codeberg.org/emacs-jabber/emac</span><span class="invisible">s-jabber</span></a></p><p>It&#39;s fun, but I don&#39;t use it, because it&#39;s missing most modern <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>XMPP</span></a> features, such as MAM, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>, message replies, message reactions…</p><p>If I knew a little bit more of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Elisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Elisp</span></a> — and had more time at hand…</p>
Daniel Gultsch<p>There are no known security issues with "Siacs OMEMO" / OMEMO v0.3¹ despite of what some very loud Signal fans would like you to believe. It has been audited by a third party² who took a longer look at it than all of the Signal fans combined.</p><p>Yes, <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> v0.7+ (or TWOMEMO 😜) is a cleaner spec with more features (most notably Stanza Content Encryption). That’s why we wrote it. I’m a co-author. That doesn’t mean v0.3 is insecure.</p><p>¹: <a href="https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0384-0.3.0.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-</span><span class="invisible">0384-0.3.0.html</span></a><br>²: <a href="https://conversations.im/omemo/audit.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">conversations.im/omemo/audit.p</span><span class="invisible">df</span></a></p><p><a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> no it's not.</p><ul><li>Otherwise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OrganizedCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OrganizedCrime</span></a> would choose <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> so hard, you'd be shutdown within weeks by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FBI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FBI</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would be forced to <em>"pull a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LavaBit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LavaBit</span></a>"</em> and face jailtime for obstruction of justice or snitch on users! </li></ul><p>Being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> makes you inherently vulnerable <em>by your own choice</em> and thus trivial to shutdown compared to <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys and true <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> et. al.] and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> et. al.]!)</p><ul><li>Plus neither of those <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shill</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>! </li></ul><p>And don't even get me started on you collecting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a>) <em>for no valid reason</em>, (thus violating <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Not to mention relying ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>charity</span></a> and being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> isn't sustainable to begin with!</li></ul><p>But yeah, I'll be patient to shout <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a>"</em> to your annoying cult of fanboys!</p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://freie-re.de/@qbi" class="u-url mention">@<span>qbi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://gruene.social/@Gerbsen" class="u-url mention">@<span>Gerbsen</span></a></span></p><p>Ja, tatsächlich schalte ich die <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>-Verschlüsselung häufig ab. Wäre für mich blöd, wenn das nicht ginge.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Debacle<p>What the hell is wrong with <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Jabber</span></a>? The two most important console clients, <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Poezio" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Poezio</span></a> and <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Profanity" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Profanity</span></a>, both released version 0.15.0 today. Same version number, same day, same first letter &quot;P&quot;. Do you want to confuse us all?</p><p>At least Poezio is written in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Python</span></a>, Profanity in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/C" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>C</span></a>/<a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Clang" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Clang</span></a>, i.e. there are some differences. Otherwise it would be too much.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://piaille.fr/@mathieui" class="u-url mention">@<span>mathieui</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://devlug.de/social/profanity" class="u-url mention">@<span>profanity</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>OMEMO</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Seriously, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> fans are just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cultists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cultists</span></a> who are unwilling to even consider the possibility that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> isn't sustainable or that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> and her predecessor, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> - shilling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBro</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Moxie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Moxie</span></a> ain't their best friends and would happily <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">risk jail for them</a>.</p><ul><li>I may sound like <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_B%C3%BChler_(Kaufmann)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans Bühler</a> at this point, but <a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal has a stench</a> that is very much reminiscent of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a>!</li></ul><p>I <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a> and when the evidence is there, I do expect public apologies from every single one of you shills that <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/111968251463697943" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">live</a> on a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> mentality believing every <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1thc5DSHwA" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advertising lie</a>!</p><ul><li>Teach kids proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiteracy</span></a> instead and <em>get gud</em> at it. Do a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> and use <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> FFS!</li></ul><p>If Signal was actually secure, it would be used by <a href="https://archive.org/details/darknet_drug_lord" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">every</a> <a href="https://pastebin.com/GrV3uYh5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">single</a> <em>"Darknet Drug Lord"</em>! </p><ul><li>But guess why they'd rather <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdab4T_CoN8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teach</a> stuff like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OfflinePGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OfflinePGP</span></a> method instead?</li></ul><p>Because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> requires <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>!</p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kaidan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kaidan</span></a> 0.12.0 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KaidanIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KaidanIM</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QXmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QXmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Qt</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KDE</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) <a href="https://kaidan.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">kaidan.im/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QXmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QXmpp</span></a> 1.10.3 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CPlusPlus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CPlusPlus</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2E" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2E</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EndToEndEncryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EndToEndEncryption</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EEncryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EEncryption</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XEP0384" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XEP0384</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAM</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSASL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSASL</span></a>) <a href="https://github.com/qxmpp-project/qxmpp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/qxmpp-project/qxmpp</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Несерьёзный Выдумщик<p>Очередной скандал из ничего, не имевший бы оснований, если бы не прибегнули к откровенному вранью. Как всегда о злой и страшной России, якобы имеющей доступ к данным мессенджера <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/signal" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a></p><blockquote><p>советник главы Белого дома по национальной безопасности Майкл Уолтц случайно добавил в закрытый чат, созданный в мессенджере Signal, редактора издания The Atlantic Джеффри Голдберга. В чате обсуждались вопросы, связанные с началом военной операции США против йеменских хуситов, используемое вооружение и прочая информация под грифом «совершенно секретно». В переписке участвовали министр обороны Пит Хегсет, директор ЦРУ, глава Национального разведывательного управления и другие высокопоставленные представители силовых структур.</p><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>Вот это враньё, на котором вертится весь скандал:</p><blockquote><p>Несмотря на то что Signal использует двойное шифрование и считается одним из наиболее защищенных мессенджеров, давно известно, что спецслужбы многих стран, включая Россию, имеют доступ к его данным.</p><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p>Не говоря уже о том, что Signal почему-то именуется «коммерческим мессенджером».</p><p>Именно криптосхема, протокол <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/e2ee" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#e2ee</a>, из Signal Messenger используется в <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/viber" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Viber</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/whatsapp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatsApp</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/skype" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Skype</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/googleduo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoogleDUO</a> и ряде других системах гарантируя «сквозное шифрование».<br>Включая тот самый <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/omemo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> для <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/xmpp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>/#Jabber, что пришёл на смену <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/otr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OTR</a>.</p><p>А сам по себе Signal Messenger считается не только каноничной реализацией этого протокола. Но и другого подхода — когда сервер не обладает метаданными кто же именно и кому пишет.<br>Т.е. когда владельцы сервиса не знают какие именно пользователи между собой в 3 часа ночи обмениваются сообщениями и с какой интенсивностью.</p><p>Этот подход называется <a href="https://signal.org/blog/sealed-sender" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">sealed sender</a> И многократно проверен на корректность академическим сообществом, ровно так же как была проверена криптосхема (протокол) Signal.</p><p><a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/crypto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#crypto</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/криптография" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#криптография</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/infosec" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#infosec</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/privacy" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://idealists.su/tag/иб" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ИБ</a> <span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://mastodon.social/@russian_mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>russian_mastodon</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://lor.sh/@ru" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ru</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://3zi.ru/@Russia" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Russia</span></a></span></p>
nemo™ 🇺🇦<p>I just delved into XMPP &amp; OMEMO, despite limited experience. This old but intriguing article caught my attention: <a href="https://soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against-xmppomemo/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against</span><span class="invisible">-xmppomemo/</span></a> 📚💻 Worth a read? 🤔 <a href="https://mas.to/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PrivacyMatters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PrivacyMatters</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> I still think <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> has fundamental flaws like demanding <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> can't be obtained anonymously around the globe <em>and</em> are trivial to track down to devices and thus users), being subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> as an <em>unnecessary &amp; 100% avoidable risk</em> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> shilling (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>) and it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> nature that makes it inferior to <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a></em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.io/@ckrypto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ckrypto</span></a></span> if@signalapp@mastodon.world wasn't complying with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would be in jail.</p><p>Not to mention even <em>if</em> Signal keeps their <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>"</em> code updated - which is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M&amp;t=887s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">doubtful</a>, <em>NOONE</em> can actually <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/verify" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>verify</span></a> that it's the code you actually use - regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>backend</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Server</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/client" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>client</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a>! </p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is as secure as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, otherwise it would've been shutdown ages ago.</li></ul><p>Also if Signal was designed for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a>, it would've been <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and not demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> which oftentimes cannot be obtained anonymously in many juristictions <em>at all</em>!</p><ul><li>Only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> standards can be secure, regardless if OMEMO or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME. </li></ul><p>By comparison, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> doesn't require any PII, only an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> account, and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> isn't a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> but sustainable due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subscription</span></a> and they don't even require any personal details for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/payment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>payment</span></a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> are accepted.</p><ul><li>Not to mention neither <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M&amp;t=424s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pandering</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> that <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">don't work</a> even for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBros</span></a>! </li></ul> <p>Again: It's Signal alone who have to evidence they are trustworthy, and all I get are <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> replies, which means they are not to be trusted.</p><ul><li>Not to mention, it's just not sustainable to run a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/service" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>service</span></a> without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/revenue" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>revenue</span></a>, even if it's run entirely by unpaid volunteers and gets all it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hosting</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/costs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>costs</span></a> donated, someone has to pay for expenses due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/abuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>abuse</span></a> of a service (which is an inevitability come mass adoption)...</li></ul><p>Whereas with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> I can completely setup my own server and client, even build my own if I don't trust anyone else and pay someone to audit the code.</p><ul><li>Signal as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> service is inevitable vulnerable to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RubberhoseCryptoanalysis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RubberhoseCryptoanalysis</span></a>, and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Meredith" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meredith</span></a> <em>will break</em> if not doing so means <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210226175949/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">jail for life until she does</a>!</li></ul><p>Whereas with XMPP &amp; PGP/MIME <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> I can layer <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> over it, make it an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> and keep that thing under my bed with a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F59iKSrx63c&amp;list=PL2YepVFF1azEYo0c0HdYwykbp_AXchaIp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">literal killswitch</a>...</p>
contrapunctus ✊🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️<p>Posting and pinning this because Soatok's misinformation has infected far too many. *Everyone* needs to read this in its entirety, *especially* all the <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> Kool-Aid drinkers.</p><p><a href="https://www.moparisthebest.com/against-silos-signal/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">moparisthebest.com/against-sil</span><span class="invisible">os-signal/</span></a></p><p>*And* the response from OMEMO author Tim Henke, which Soatok saw fit to redact from their post comments.<br><a href="https://www.moparisthebest.com/tim-henkes-omemo-response.txt" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">moparisthebest.com/tim-henkes-</span><span class="invisible">omemo-response.txt</span></a></p><p><a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/infosec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>infosec</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/federated" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federated</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/e2ee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>e2ee</span></a> <a href="https://en.osm.town/tags/endtoendencryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>endtoendencryption</span></a></p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> 2.0.3 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPPClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPPClient</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JabberClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JabberClient</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Python</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/nbxmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nbxmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pythonnbxmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pythonnbxmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAM</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA1</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA256" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA256</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA512" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA512</span></a>) <a href="https://gajim.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">gajim.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://linuxmom.net/@vkc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vkc</span></a></span> <em>nodds in agreement</em></p><p>The only safe comms are <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME with <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a></em> of <em>all the keys</em>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pleroma.envs.net/users/aei" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>aei</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pouet.pas.la/@nicoco" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nicoco</span></a></span> personally, I just stick with native <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> because like <em>public <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/relay" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>relay</span></a> servers</em> most of these <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gateways" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gateways</span></a> do get blocked once russian skiddies abude them to spam their garbage around.</p><ul><li><em>Ask me how I know!</em></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://pleroma.envs.net/users/aei" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>aei</span></a></span> I only have one: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> (okay, two: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a>) for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>!</p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> 2.0.2 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPPClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPPClient</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JabberClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JabberClient</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Python</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/nbxmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nbxmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pythonnbxmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>pythonnbxmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAM</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA1</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA256" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA256</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSHA512" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSHA512</span></a>) <a href="https://gajim.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">gajim.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> Yeah, I think <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> is pretty cool and like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> ( <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> ) a very good option.</p><ul><li>Espechally since both do <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> and not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AdvertisingLies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AdvertisingLies</span></a>!</li></ul>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QXmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QXmpp</span></a> 1.10.1 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CPlusPlus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CPlusPlus</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2E" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2E</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EndToEndEncryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EndToEndEncryption</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EEncryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EEncryption</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XEP0384" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XEP0384</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAM</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SCRAMSASL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SCRAMSASL</span></a>) <a href="https://github.com/qxmpp-project/qxmpp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/qxmpp-project/qxmpp</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>