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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackBerry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlackBerry</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PlayBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PlayBook</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tablet</a> was released as a accessory screen for their Phones, which gave it "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiiU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WiiU</a>-Effect" in terms of marketing.<ul><li>Plus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RIM</a> relying hard on business clients and their proprietary applianced mail systems and having big carriers upsell to business people made them look outdated & quite literally out of touch once <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iPhone</a> went mainstream.</li></ul>I mean, the hardware was never their problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SMS</a>-Typists swear by their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackberryCurve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BlackberryCurve</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#keyboard</a> but BlackBerry's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toolchain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#toolchain</a> - just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SymbianOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SymbianOS</a>'s - was just hideous to the point that devs like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> didn't even want to try making <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apps</a> for those devices.<ul><li>Unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> fucking up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> by refusing to sell devices to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#developers</a>, by the time RIM & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> came from their high horses, their market shares had been squeezed into mere "rounding errors" by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#iOS</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Android</a> as it was way cheaper and easier to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Apps</a> developed, tested, sold, bought and use them than on their devices. </li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Sony</a> even released some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> devices but since they didn't have the same signing keys, one couldn't even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sideload" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sideload</a> apps (not to mention they didn't had the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OviStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OviStore</a> on those either!)...

Heiko SchulzIt ist still Caturday - so here a blast from the past. Our family cat "Piri", my childhood friend- past away 15years ago already. <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/canonpowershot?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#canonpowershot</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/s60?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#s60</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/canonpowershots60?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#canonpowershots60</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/darktable?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#darktable</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/cat?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cat</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/catcontent?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#catcontent</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/caturday?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#caturday</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/catsofpixelfed?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#catsofpixelfed</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/pixelfedcats?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#pixelfedcats</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/digitalphotograpy?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#digitalphotograpy</a> <a href="https://pixelfed.social/discover/tags/blastfromthepast?src=hash" class="u-url hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#blastfromthepast</a>

Nicolas ŠustrSo sieht das S- und U-Bahnnetz <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/Wien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wien</a> wegen <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/Hochwasser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hochwasser</a> gerade aus. <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/U2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#U2</a>, <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/U3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#U3</a>, <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/U4" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#U4</a>, <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/U6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#U6</a> teileingestellt, die U4 fast vollständig. <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/S45" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S45</a> ganz außer Betrieb. <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/S50" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S50</a> und <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> wohl auch. <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/WienerLinien" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WienerLinien</a> <a href="https://berlin.social/tags/Donau" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Donau</a>

derSammlerLemmings is f*cking amazing. Even has the same music and sfx. They made the <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Lemmings" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lemmings</a> bigger and more detailed, too.<a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Java" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Java</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/RetroGaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RetroGaming</a>

derSammlerMostly done sorting the games - were a bit more than expected. The list so far:Alpha Zone (2005 - Gameleons) Asphalt Urban GT (2004 - Gameloft) Block Breaker Deluxe (2004 - Gameloft) Bomber (2003 - WhileTrue) Crash Nitro Kart (2004 - wonderphone) DRIV3R (2004 - Sorrent) Duke Nukem Mobile (2004 - Ojom) Lemmings (2005 - iFone) Lord of the Rings RPG (2003 - JAMDAT Mobile) Prince of Persia - Harem Adventures (2004 - Gameloft) Prince of Persia - The Sands of Time (2003 - Gameloft) Prince of Persia - Warrior Within (2004 - Gameloft) Rayman 3 (2003 - Gameloft) Rayman Bowling (2004 - Gameloft) Speed Devils (2003 - Gameloft) Spider-Man (2003 - Indiagames) Super Bomberman (2005 - Living Mobile) The Powerpuff Girls - Bad Mojo (2004 - Turner) Tomb Raider 1 (2003 - Eidos) Worms Forts (2004 - Team 17) XIII (2003 - Gameloft)Next task: test if they all actually work. 😅 <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Ubisoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ubisoft</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Gameloft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gameloft</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/NGage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NGage</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Java" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Java</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/RetroGaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RetroGaming</a>

derSammlerBetween 2002 and 2004, <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Ubisoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Ubisoft</a> had a service in the UK called uPlay Mobile (yes, uPlay - a name they would later recycle). Over this service, you could buy & download mobile games for your phone. There were even "physical" copies you could buy in stores, but these were just empty boxes with a download code.That service is long gone and so is access to the games. People sometimes offer the empty game boxes on eBay for crazy prices claiming they are for the Nokia N-Gage - but they are not. They are Java MIDlets, so not even native <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> apps. They run of course on the N-Gage, too.Anyway, before this is getting too long: while doing research on something else, I was able to get in touch with a person who was involved in this. And he had a nice archive of many of the uPlay Mobile games that he backed up back in the day. Not all of the 20+ games, but a good part of it. I'm not sure if these are already preserved yet - I have to look into this.More to come!<a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/RetroGaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RetroGaming</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/NGage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NGage</a>

derSammlerTwo more planned <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> N-Gage launch titles that had prototypes done but never made it past that:Bounce and Kart Racer (or Kart Racing, depending on the source)Anyone out there with contacts to former staff members of <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Kuju" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kuju</a> Entertainment? If so, please get in touch with me. I'm especially interested in getting in contact with Adrian B. (no, not Adrian Black 😂 )Please boost. Thanks. 🙂<a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/ngage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ngage</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/RetroGaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RetroGaming</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/s60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#s60</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/prototype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#prototype</a> <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/unreleased" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#unreleased</a>

Emory<a href="https://hackers.town/@benbrown" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@benbrown</a> what i was really interested in but my rep couldn't get me a prototype for was the one Series 90 device they ever shipped to my knowledge. they instead released some equally sad performing hardware that basically ran linux on one or two SKUs before bagging that too.check this fscker out: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7700" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7700</a>they moved some of the S90 buzz into the S60 platform but by that point i had _HAD IT_ with <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> AND <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a>. <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/Series90" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Series90</a> <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/phones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#phones</a>

Emory<a href="https://hackers.town/@benbrown" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@benbrown</a> i remember you were on that train. i went the symbian/UIQ route, the Danger hardware was bad but at least they weren't decoupled entirely from software like those bozos at SE and Nokia. they never made a single <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S60</a> or <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/UIQ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UIQ</a> device that was performant. they were all sluggish slow expensive trinkets. didn't stop me from buying a lot of them. i still have a 9500 <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/S80" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#S80</a> device somewhere i plan to threaten my children with if their phone becomes a problem! <a href="https://soc.kvet.ch/tags/parenting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#parenting</a>

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