Sunday, I was happy to give a talk at the FSF #LibrePlanet, wearing the Tshirt I designed for them (photo). But later that day, Richard Stallman announced his return to the FSF's Board of Directors. In this situation, I'll no longer invest my energy for them... 😿
#fsf #rms
@davidrevoy I am happy that you have stuck by your principles and have chosen to do that.
Stallman poses a danger to the system not only because of his ideas about Free Software but because he kept alive the approach with which we have obtained all our rights: radicalism. The system try to discredit Stallman even with fake news and to incorporate only what suits its interests under the name of "Open Source" leaving out the rest of the rights-based political movement (Free Software).
I can't believe you fell for this fake news too 😕
@alexl Oh, stfu.
It's not fake news, you can easily read the documented decades of bad behaviour from RMS. We're not upset about his uncompromising attitude towards free software. We're talking about him being a constant sex pest and his decades of support for pedophilia.
I read Stallman's original words. If you are so sure of what you are saying, please report the offending texts here.
For some reason (😏 ) those who attack Stallman never report his words and context. Those who defend it calmly report them:
https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
I call this defaming someone with fake news.
@alexl Nah, stfu, you already read them and you can't see how he's a sex pest or the time the rubbed his underwear on a woman's forehead without even asking her and you think that's fine, then I can't really help you.
Let's be honest, this is not the reason most people are unhappy with Stallman leading the FSF. They don't want him because of this fake news about... child abuse? I don't even know how to call it since Stallman just said the word "assault" was not appropriate for an episode we don't know nothing about and the professor involved is already dead and can't provide his version of facts.
Stallman probably has some form of autism and it doesn't bother me. Instead, the hypocritical moralism of the vast majority of people is extremely worrying.
Sorry it seems you don't know what autism is and no, obviously that's not an excuse for everything, it's just that some people fail to understand that certain Stallman behaviors are not to be exploited by his detractors to say "look, he's a weirdo".
I think you didn't read carefully my comment... because I pointed out that some people use Stallman peculiarities that have nothing to do with the matter for dialectical purposes. I am criticizing poor rhetorical tricks, if it were not clear.
> It's a spectrum, there are limitless combinations.
Exactly. It's worth mention that the only autistic protagonists featured in a manga (L and Near in Death Note) are shown to be comfortable speaking in public, but despite this I see that the fandom recognizes them as high-functioning autistic.
Being right is so sad for a pessimist... what platform are these people using to gather support against Richard Stallman? GitHub.
Goodbye radicalism, goodbye consistency, welcome hypocrisy.
@davidrevoy That story about him was a non-story, IMO.
@mangeurdenuage Yah, I did. And storymakers didn't, from what I remember. Was real weird.
@tennoseremel @davidrevoy I think it's not coincidental that similar attacks were applied to Torvalds as well. It was actually an attack on Free Software in general.
We all have flaws, and I don't remember where, but I read Stallman said many more things in the past which many would not like. But it was brought to attention only recently. Why? Maybe to divide the community? With this post, it seems they have succeeded. At least partially.
@adnan360 @tennoseremel @davidrevoy They don't have to, the community is already deeply divided on its own.
@stemy @tennoseremel @davidrevoy Well, I haven't seen the community that much divided before these attacks. Sure it was divided based on DE, programs, workflow etc. but never like this.
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@alexl @davidrevoy Perhaps this flow of tweets on Twitter will give you an inkling of why.
https://twitter.com/search?q=fsf&src=typed_query&f=live
If that's not enough then just accept that folks are disappointed and move on with life while other folks move on.
I'm interested in David opinion only, if you check my profile you will see I just shared an article debunking the fake news about Richard Stallman.
You should read it too:
It's unfortunate you think RMS is not good for free software, when he's doing full time voluntary work for advancement of free software for 37 years.
Anyways it's your personal dicision.
@davidrevoy I wonder if distancing that personality cult, let alone the problems with Stallman himself, is the best thing for our movement... How much overlap is there between that crowd & those that villify forks of e.g. GIMP, it takes the same sort of hero worship to miss our principles like that!
P.S. Great talk! And I love your Pepper & Carrot comics!
@davidrevoy Do you want to sign this? https://rms-open-letter.github.io/
@be Done by email since 30min; it might take time to get part of the next triage 🙂 Thanks for the link.
@davidrevoy did you read this: https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
I read what RMS said and I think the fuss created around misinterpretations and misquotes from what he said is much more harmful to a community at whole, than what he actually said.
@xinayder I read it, it was sent to me a lot this afternoon: I try to read various sources of info to keep rational opinion.
Still, I think if it was only misinterpretations; it would have been easy for him to fix it, clarify, adjust and post disambiguation when it was time. I see that very often on communication issues on other Floss project...
But even when he came back; it was made without clarification, disambiguation: just imposed out of the blue.
Definitely, not my cup of tea... 🍵
Still, I think if it was only misinterpretations; it would have been easy for him to fix it, clarify, adjust and post disambiguation when it was time. I see that very often on communication issues on other Floss project...
But even when he came back; it was made without clarification, disambiguation: just imposed out of the blue.
@davidrevoy I hope you are doing well. Thank you so much for standing up.
@ToonLink I'm doing ok thanks to the focus on last week of production for episode 34 of Pepper&Carrot.
I feel I'll only start to digest emotionaly a lot of things in start April when it will be posted. Thank you very much for sending kind words.
@davidrevoy Are you sure you are not falling for a smear campaign here? I recommend reading this: https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web
@silverwizard @davidrevoy That wetheweb text says several things that are relevant here, I really recommend reading it. If you did read it and thought it was nothing, then maybe go back and read again a bit more carefully. One thing it explains is about the thing that triggered it all, the contents of some emails, pointing out that RMS did in fact not say what people claimed. The truth matters, I think. Also... (to be continued)
@silverwizard @davidrevoy That text also says something about the kind of person RMS is, someone who cares a lot about right and wrong and who tends to be frank about his opinions, and how that influenced what happened. It also says something about how rumors can work, and at least for me that makes me think that we should be careful to check what basis we have before accusing someone. If the accusation is serious, that does not mean we should care less about what basis we have for it.
@clacke @davidrevoy Thanks @clacke for being the voice of reason. 🙂 Maybe worth noting that RMS is not back as "the leader" of FSF, he is not Executive Director (that is John Sullivan) and not President of the Board of directors (that is Geoffrey Knauth). RMS is right now one of six members of the Board of directors: https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board Is that still too much of a leading role, I'm not sure, but anyway it is not the same as before.
@davidrevoy yeah, the whole thing sucks and I feel like I should be watching out for where projects' allegiances lie. I appreciate your integrity though
@davidrevoy I'm sorry you've upset the RMS fan club.
I believe you made the right choice. I am also thinking of how to disassociate myself from the FSF.
@JordiGH @davidrevoy at this point I don’t think that the FSF will be a long standing institution. These decisions demonstrate a greater interest in the personality cult of RMS than in actually fostering/mentoring new leadership talent to ensure the future of the foundation.
Thank you for your work, and for speaking up about this.
@davidrevoy I really like the design and I enjoyed your talk! Thank you very much
@davidrevoy You might wanna put your name here as well: https://rms-open-letter.github.io/
@schmittlauch Done, thank you. 👍
@davidrevoy @schmittlauch I get your reasons (after reading your statements), but the appendix to the letter contains a lot of deliberate misinterpretations and the signature appears to give them credit. Which would be sad to think.
More words, reasons and thoughts on this fresh blog-post:
https://www.davidrevoy.com/article828/rms-is-back-at-the-fsf