What is the hashtag that you would recommend artists to use to say that their art is not created with AI?
@davidrevoy I was wondering, wouldn't using tags like #HumanArt or #NoAi just make it simpler for AI companies to scrape images by hashtag?
Even if you explicitly forbid them from doing so (with those hashtags), I don't think it would make a difference. They haven't really been considerate of these things in the past.
A problem with AI "art" is that using it to feed into datasets essentially deteriorates what an AI image gen is able to produce. Wouldn't those hashtags help AI companies?
@stjepanlukac @davidrevoy Ai companies who disregard ethics will train on anything.
I read somewhere that the results from AI trained on AI art gives bad result like lossy jpg compressed over and over. Yes using a specific hashtag for human made art is like giving them easy filter. But they were going to train on it anyway, no point in thinking about that.
Having an hashtag would definitely help humans to know what is what. So it is plus for humans wanting to enjoy human art.
@raghukamath @davidrevoy I disagree. I think the hashtag is counterproductive and makes artists do the "preemptive filtering" for AI imageGen companies.
If anything, just use Glaze and publish your art normally.
yeah hash tag acts like filter to these companies, but nothing stops AI using these images anyway.
Glaze looks really nice but, it is not free software and open source which is a requirement for me and I think for @davidrevoy too. And also it excludes users and artists who use linux as it only provides app for windows and mac. When it was introduced I have also read about it ripping of Free Software code - https://twitter.com/ravenben/status/1636444647034634256
@stjepanlukac @davidrevoy The glaze team may have changed the code now, or not ( we can't say for sure as it is closed source) but they violated GPL (may be inadvertently or out of ignorance) , and even after knowing and accepting that they violated the license I do not know if they released the full sources code as required by the license, that tarnished their reputation as protector of any kind of rights in my eyes. You can't protect rights of others by stealing from someone else.
@raghukamath @stjepanlukac Yes true. Also, if you read their Q&A on their website Glaze has a lot of blabla to explain how great their technique is. If you look at Glaze paper (src: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2302.04222.pdf ) everything is at 5.2 and to resume it this way: You just apply a style transfer (with an external picture) then overlay it at low opacity with the blending mode of your choice. This add a perturbation to the picture. You could achieve this with GMIC Stylise filter, IMO. 1/2
@raghukamath @stjepanlukac you have to trust the result of a single paper about how those perturbations works. I'm not sure it is very effective to be honest. Reading the (8) Limitation only 3 month after the technique was released and attacks make me think this is interesting but not future proof 2/2