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@orbitalmartian Thanks! Both are from my latest brushkit: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article953/krita-brushes-2023-01-bundle

On this picture https://www.davidrevoy.com/data/images/blog/2023/2023-01-18_deevad-bundle-2023_b.jpg , the pencil is the one in "Sketching" , and the green painting tilt brush is the top-right one in Brush Textured (with the two arrows showing the tilt).