framapiaf.org est l'un des nombreux serveurs Mastodon indépendants que vous pouvez utiliser pour participer au fédiverse.
Un service Mastodon fourni par l'association d’éducation populaire Framasoft.

Administré par :

Statistiques du serveur :

1,5K
comptes actifs

The recent excitement surrounding Thread's arrival on the Fediverse is concerning. To understand why this is not a good idea, consider their economic interest in harvesting data, their poor moderation, and their manipulations. Nothing good can come from their federation. Don't roll out the red carpet for them.

@davidrevoy Let me put it this way: Yes, I care about my privacy, that's why I'm on Mastodon.
No, most other people don't care about this, and cannot be bothered to do so (their choice).
ActivityPub is a protocol like SMTP, which just means that everybody can implement a service with it, which then can interact with other services using the same protocol.
I myself am looking forward to finally be able to chat with those other people again WITHOUT HAVING TO JOIN THAT COMMERCIAL PLATFORM MYSELF.

David Revoy

@IgorRock Please no cap. Cap I read them as yelling. 😅
Good you talk about SMTP: are you informed about how Gmail, right now −because of getting majority of emails− is doing the law on the world of email? (eg. thedaily.case.edu/upcoming-gma ).

Don't you think Meta becoming a major player in the Fedi world could push some 'security check', complexify the standard until no little project could follow, this type of things? Don't you see the dependency in case they takes it all as Gmail did?

The Daily · Upcoming Gmail changes may impact email deliveryCase Western Reserve University

@davidrevoy Well, as long as there is no "bold font" or anything in Mastodon, the only way to emphasize the important part is - sadly - upper case.
As such, on platforms which don't support bold or italic fonts, I myself don't equal upper case text with yelling, as I do on platforms which have those.
Maybe this is something which should be improved in Mastodon (it would be easy to use some wiki-like syntax to do so, to be honest, clients just would have to support it, no protocol change needed).

@IgorRock I think I read somewhere some instances and versions supports Markdown basic feature. Let's test (I always was curious 🙂 ):

*test*
**test**
_test_
~~test~~
~test~

> quote

## Title

[edit: Ok, edit after I saw the result: it doesn't work on my side 😅 Good to know ]

@davidrevoy @IgorRock Instances that do support them may create posts with markup being invisible to other instances: for example, this shows as bold on my instance: bold.

Some apps (such as FediLab) may try to render markup when markdown-like syntax is used in a plain text post. In any case, putting text in asterisks or similar is a good enough way to emphasize text when markup isn’t available.

@BetaRays @IgorRock Thanks for the info! Yes, I can see the bold text in your message.

@davidrevoy @IgorRock Okay, maybe parts of it work then, but I remember quotes not working on other instances.

Let me try more of this: italic, bold, strikethrough.

This is a quote.

This is an h1

Some text

This is an h2

Both of those headers don’t seem to display on my preview.

@BetaRays @IgorRock Oh nice about all the styles available. 😍 It works well. I can understand why the header/title don't work: a big font like that could really mess the timeline.

@BetaRays @davidrevoy While not a single of them works on my smartphone (Mastodon app, there's nothing there, just the text "italic, bold, strikethrough), some seem to work when using the web interface of my instance (the above three and the "quote" work).

But I don't even know how to create any of them in either. ☹️

@BetaRays @davidrevoy PS: And since nothing shows up in the app (like it would with wiki syntax, like "*bold*"), this is not really as useful as such. 🙄

@IgorRock @davidrevoy This not working in some apps may be a good enough reason to avoid using this if the meaning can’t be deduced with stripped markup. I don’t think plain Mastodon allows you to use markup at all, but some forks do. In any case, using *asterisks* as a way to mark emphasis is common enough to be understood if you only have access to plain text.

@BetaRays @davidrevoy It works well for a single word or two, but with a longer part of a sentence? Not really. 😕

@davidrevoy And about the Gmail issue: this only means that all people who need to be in contact with others will leave that platform in droves (latest when they missed an important mail from somebody else), sorry.
At least those companies using it now most probably will, because they cannot risk to miss mails from customers... I think Google is shooting themselves in the foot with this, as they are doing with their "no adblockers anymore" changes to Chrome.